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This book describes the search by hundreds of Interpol detectives, for one particular Oklahoma bombing suspect, Chris Chapula. Chris was expected to contact Neo-Nazis in Frankfurt, Germany, April 24, 1995. Witness stories checked by Richard Serrano of the L. A. Times, Nov/Dec 1995. The book is distributed by Book Distributors Inc.

On April 21, 1995 The FBI was using almost one quarter of their staff to investigate the Oklahoma City bombing. They were offering a $1,000,000 reward for information which would lead to the arrest and conviction of John Doe #2. After the arrest of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, the FBI only wanted to focus on these two men, to the exclusion of John Doe #2. But read further about how the US Government continues to pursue CHRIS CHAPULA, who was John Doe #2 and the co-driver of the Oklahoma City truck bomb.

Are there unanswered questions about the The Oklahoma City Bomber named John Doe #2?

#1) If you want to understand the most up-to-date story about John Doe #2, first read the last edition of the Stephen Jones' book, Others Unknown, (ISBN 1-58648-098-7), published by Public Affairs Books, 2001. No longer bound by client/lawyer privledge secrecy, Mr. Jones is able to specify how Tim McVeigh provided his lawyer (Jones), information about the certainty of the existance of John Doe #2, as well as various times that McVeigh was with John Doe #2 and times when John Doe #2 contributed to the bombing plot, like the purchase of the hydrazine from a Texas supplier. In one case at Elliott's Ryder Rental McVeigh admitted to talking with another man in the lobby of Elliott's and even that the man was smoking. There were no other truck rentals or returns that day and since McVeigh said there was another man in the lobby while he was there, the testimony of three of Elliotts' staff about John Doe #2 is likely quite accurate.

It is clear from Jones' book that John Doe #2 provided the transportation for McVeigh to go to Elliott's after McVeigh left the McDonalds (where he was photographed on the restaurant's security cameras) on the day he rented the truck used for the bombing. This also explains why McVeigh was dry or may have changed clothes between the McDonalds and Elliott's. The guesses that Stephen Jones makes about the real identity of John Doe #2 may be off the mark but the details of his interactions with Tim McVeigh show conclusively that McVeigh did have another helper in the bombing plot with him in Junction City. This book is a "must read".

Check out these Stephen Jones links;

Go to key quotes by Stephen Jones

This web page link to Public Affairs Books is for "Others Unknown" by Stephen Jones. Click Here to connect to Public Affairs Books Official Web Page for OTHERS UNKNOWN by Stepen Jones.

This link might help with additional information (about John Doe #2), that came from others including Louis B Freeh. Review of Others Unknown

Amazon books has a good review about and excerpts from OTHERS UNKNOWN by Stephen Jones. Click here for the Amazon review and information.

#2) Next, read the December 31, 1995 story by Richard Serrano in the Los Angeles Times. It is a summary of the 1995 investigations into the Oklahoma City bombing. Richard Serrano (one of the two writers of the LA Times story) has written an excellent book about Tim McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing called "One of Ours" (published by W. H. Norton, 1998). The book contains a detailed description of many of McVeigh’s motivations and activities as he prepared the bomb. It clearly describes Tim McVeigh’s insistence on finding a co-driver for the truck-bomb. Mike Fortier declines McVeigh’s invitation to participate on-site in the bomb project. Tim tells Fortier in no uncertain terms that he is on his way to Colorado to meet with antigovernment comrades who Tim claims are more courageously willing to strike at the US government. The Serrano book contains interviews with a variety of credible witnesses who saw a Ryder truck outside the Dreamland Motel on Easter Sunday, April 16, 1995. Did this truck deliver the truck-bomb co-driver and detonator cord that the FBI failed to explain in their description of Tim McVeigh’s activities and the bomb plot? Would it have been the "back-up" truck to be used in case the main truck/bomb broke down? This was a highly planned mission and a back-up truck makes sense.

#3) Read the recent online Salon newsmagazine article by David Neiwert about John Doe #2 (June 9, 2001). (Copy and paste this link into your web browser or just click on it)

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/06/09/john_doe/

The testimony of Joann Van Buren is most interesting as she describes the third person accompanying Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols when they drove their Ryder truck (the bomb truck) to the Subway restaurant where she worked on April 18, 1995. The FBI confiscated the restaurant surveillence tape showing McVeigh, Nichols and John Doe #2 and have never returned it. The description by Ms Van Buren fits the description of John Doe #2 (Chris Chapula) perfectly.

#4) Next, listen to the terror and fear in the voices of John Doe #2 witnesses from Herrington, Kansas in the story by Wade Goodwin, on National Public Radio’s "All Things Considered", January 24 and/or 25, 1996 (depending on which NPR station it aired on) (the recorded cassette of the interviews conveys the reality of this story better than the written transcript).

#5) After these introductory stories, read the complete court transcripts of the defenses at the trials of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols. Also read the stories in The Dallas Daily News about Tim McVeigh’s supposed confession, and then read transcripts of Stephen Jones press conference, as Mr. Jones tries to explain why a faked confession had been produced. Read closely Stephen Jones words about Richard Reyna’s negotiations in Europe to get help for Tim McVeigh’s defense from a "hostile" witness (or bystander)(?) to the bombing. This "hostile" witness/bystander had alledgedly been with Tim McVeigh in the truck-bomb. This could only be the truck-bomb co-driver, John Doe #2.

#6) To be as complete as possible check the CNN news reports of Friday and Saturday, January 17 and 18, 1998 (CNN: Candiotti) describing a militia group in the state of Washington with advance notice of the bombing, (this story was formerly at the web address- http://wedge.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/nation/082497/nation8_29664_noframes.html) and then read the interesting story by JD Cash of The McCurtin (Oklahoma) Gazette which described contact between Andreas Strassmeir, Michael Breschia, and Tim McVeigh in Tulsa, Oklahoma .

#7) IS THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USA STILL SEARCHING FOR THE SUSPECT CHRIS CHAPULA AROUND THE WORLD DUE TO HIS CONTINUED BOMB-MAKING AND TERRORIST ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO DAMAGE AMERICA? ABSOLUTELY, (READ BELOW)

This story was printed in The Manila Times, the official agent in the Philippines that releases government information.

USA Lists 25 Int’l Terrorists Who Regularly Visit RP (Republic of the Philippines)

Date Posted: July 12 2002

Source: The Manila Times

United States intelligence officials have released the names of 25 international terrorist suspects believed to have slipped in and out of the Philippines in the last four years.

American sources, who refused to be identified, also said the US Border Patrol and the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) are on the alert for these persons.

However, the use of high-quality forged travel documents and a well-funded network has made it difficult to track the movements of the suspected terror suspects—who are not all swarthy, hirsute, or of Middle Eastern descent.

In interviews with THE MANILA TIMES, American and Philippine law enforcement sources admitted that recent terror attacks, at least in this country, may not have been the handiwork of “the usual suspects”—meaning the mainstream Moro and communist rebel groups, or even the more traditional military rightwing groups.

In at least one case—the Dec. 30, 2000 bombings of the Light Rail Transit station and several other areas in Metro Manila—police intelligence officers have found leads linking the crime to an unlikely alliance of Vietnamese exiles, rightwing patrons and an obscure Muslim tribe based in Davao.

US officials, however, have tried to downplay the involvement of rightwing Americans in terror attacks, believing this would undermine President George W. Bush’s global campaign against terrorism.

List The US list of terrorists include: (NOTE: Name color-highlighting mine)

Christopher Hamel, American; Michael Colleto, American; Michael Abbott, American; Mark Anthony Finnigin, American; Clifford Mogg, American; Andreas Strassmeir, German. Sharon Toval, Israeli; Michael Hararior Harare, Israeli; Don Wassall, American; Ronney Lee Atkins, American; Mahylon Andrews, American; Ron Tyler, American; Kadar Kareem, undetermined; Zacarias Moussaoui, undetermined; Chris Chapula, American; Donovan St. Claire, American; Daniel Spiegelman, American; Craig Wesley Hasseltine, American; Juan Garcia Abrego, Maxican; John Bangerter, American; Hashem Alhussaini, Iraqi; Al Husseini Hssain, Iraqi; Mark Strum or Strumm, American and Mysterious German.

Little is known about the names on the list. American sources said the individuals on the list come from different organizations and additional information could jeopardize ongoing investigations.

But at least one man, the German Andreas Strassmeir, has been linked to the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

Convicted mastermind Timothy McVeigh, then 26 when the crime occurred, has been executed for the explosion that killed 169 persons, including 19 infants. His comrade, Terry Nichols, sentenced to life imprisonment, was formerly married to a Filipino.

Strassmeir was one of the men identified by Carol Howe, an undercover Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) operative, as among McVeigh’s contacts.

Strassmeir, described as a German illegal alien, was then living at Elohim City, the base for the “Christian Identity” group on the outskirts of Oklahoma.

Howe, who was then living with the group, claimed McVeigh called Strassmeir, the son of a prominent German government official, two weeks before the bombing. McVeigh was also known to visit Elohim City.

Months after the bombing, however, Strassmeir “disappeared,” and US prosecutors went on to declare McVeigh as a loner, who only had help from Nichols. Strassmeir and other Elihim City residents were later identified as US government assets.

RP links

The Strassmeir connection is interesting because of testimonies from old RP hands indicating Nichols and McVeigh had curious meetings in Manila and Davao with Middle Eastern nationals.

This, at around the time of the first World Trade Center bombing.

That Terry Nichols would be in the Philippines is not strange. He has an ex-wife and a wife here. That he was here with Timothy Mc Veigh and that the two of them had met with mid-Easterners and Filipino Muslims in Ermita-Malate, and in Davao City, is altogether another matter.

Tessie (surname withheld on request) frequents Woods, a restaurant on Mabini Street in Ermita. She remembered Mc Veigh when she saw his picture on a CNN newscast on the day of his execution.

She recalls being shocked. “He (McVeigh) and a man named Terry used to be here all the time. Terry had a Filipina wife or girlfriend. Sometimes they would meet with Arabs and some Muslims from Mindanao. They would always sit outside. And they talked very softly in their meetings. When it was only Terry and that McVeigh they would drink beer. They were friendly.”

“But one time I heard this Mc Veigh say in a loud voice to an Arab and a Filipino, ‘That will cost lots of money.’ I did not know what they were talking about, but McVeigh was serious, I think,” Tessie said.

Gathering holes

Intelligence sources said both McVeigh and Nichols stayed in Iseya, a small hotel in Ermita frequented by foreign backpackers.

Woods, on other hand, is a regular gathering hole for travelers on strange byways, Philippine Immigration officials told THE TIMES.

Both establishments have received “close attention” from intelligence services.

Iseya Hotel’s management does not remember McVeigh or Nichols. Dorothy Bacara, Iseya’s hotel supervisor since its establishment, does not hide the owner’s racism. In its 16 years of existence, the establishment has never served black Americans and Middle Eastern men.

“Our boss, the owner of Iseya who is an Australian, instructed us not to accept blacks and Arab-looking men because according to him, blacks are kind of unruly and undisciplined customers, while Middle Eastern men are unhygienic,” she told The Times.

“Our boss doesn’t even allow our customers to bring prostitutes here,” Bacara said. “He said it could affect the hotel’s image.”

She added the most of their clientele are Australians, white Americans and British who only spend one or two nights at the hotel.

Immigration agents confirm Bacara’s statements, and say it is the reason the small hotel is popular among westerners seeking a low-profile.

Meanwhile, crew of Woods Café and Restaurant admitted that their customers include a motley assortment of foreigners—black Americans and Arab-looking men included.

However, according to the crew who requested anonymity, they don’t suspect these foreigners who just go there to have fun and enjoy the food.

“We are in Ermita so it is not surprising to have a lot of foreigners coming to our restaurant,” he said. “But I don’t believe they are members of some anti-government or paramilitary group. I think most of them are just tourists.”

END MANILA TIMES STORY

Lawyers Stephen Jones and Michael Tigar have put dozens of witness on the stand during the trials of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, who describe a third bombing conspirator as a husky, Hispanic-looking young male. The two lawyers were trying to defend Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols against the death penalty, by showing that some blame should rest with John Doe #2.

Has the FBI made a complete search for another bombing conspirator who helped Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols to build and deliver the Oklahoma City bomb?

Answer: Not where it concerns the suspect (AKA John Doe #2), who witnesses say accompanied Tim McVeigh in the truck-bomb which killed 168 people April 19, 1995. Many sworn trial witnesses have seen at least one additional person besides Terry Nichols in the company of Tim McVeigh during the time the bomb was built and driven to the Murrah Building.

The mission of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols seems to have been to bomb the Murrah Federal Building on a specific date. The truck-bomb had to be produced on a schedule. What would they have done if the primary truck broke down?

What help could Andreas Strassmeir and Kirk Lyons (Strassmeir’s lawyer) provide for Tim McVeigh’s fanatical bomb plot?

Answer: Tim McVeigh or Terry Nichols or John Doe #2 called Strassmeir and Lyons using a telephone calling card Nichols and McVeigh purchased together. McVeigh was seen with Andreas Strassmeir and Michael Breschia in Tulsa during the last half of 1994 when the money and materials needed for the bombing mission were being arranged. Andreas Strassmeir and Kirk Lyons are battle reenactment fanatics. They participate in or promote reenactments. They have explosives training required for reenactors. Battle reenactments reproduce the realism of battlefield explosions, casualties and combat. They both knew explosives experts who could be recommended to Tim McVeigh for a "mission" like the Oklahoma City bombing.

When Stephen Jones was negotiating in Europe with Tim McVeigh’s "bystander/witness/accomplice", why would Jones’ defense team produce a faked confession putting all the responsibility for the bombing on Tim McVeigh?

Answer: By involving the truck-bomb’s co-driver (John Doe #2) in any way which could establish his certain existence in court, Stephen Jones hoped to shift some of the responsibility away from Tim McVeigh. Michael Tigar has tried to establish in court that John Doe #2 was responsible for more of the bombing than Terry Nichols. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols know who went with them to breakfast at the Santa Fe Diner, early in the morning, April 18, 1995 before the truck-bomb was loaded at Geary Lake, Ks. If either McVeigh or Nichols revealed who their co-conspirators were, they would have implicated themselves, and their guilt in the bombing plot would be more obvious than it is already. The US Justice Department prefers not to distract attention away from Terry Nichols and Tim McVeigh as bombing conspirators, and so they are unwilling to state that another bomber called John Doe #2 even exists. As well Tim McVeigh was likely certain his sister Jennifer would be murdered if he revealed the real John Doe #2, and the same goes for Terry Nichols' wife Marife and child.

The prosecutorial motives of the US Justice Department were that there be no public investigation for known John Doe #2 suspects. This doesn’t mean that John Doe #2 isn’t real. There could easily be two or three other conspirators who had a large responsibilities in the deaths of 168 people in Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995.

"WAITING FOR JOHN DOE (NUMBER TWO)" describes an American suspect in the Oklahoma City Bombing (Chris Chapula), who arrived AS EXPECTED and was chased across Europe by dozens of Interpol detectives in late April, 1995. A tip from NeoNazi informants in Germany put detectives from five countries on the lookout for the co-driver of the Oklahoma City truck/bomb. It surprised European police when the suspect John Doe #2 did not go directly to Frankfurt, Germany, where he was expected, but instead stopped in Reims, France to visit an American WW2 Military cemetery.

The suspect described here was an American, with a Midwest American accent, 21-26 years of age (in 1995), approximately 5 feet nine or ten inches tall weighing between 175 and 190 pounds. The suspect was very muscular, with bushy eyebrows and hair which was naturally very dark or black (like Hispanic or Native American hair). He traveled with a US Passport and used a Hispanic-American name (Chris Chapula). The suspect had very prominent, full lips and he walked with an athletic gait and longish strides for a person only 5 feet nine or ten inches tall. He wore an oversize olive drab US military style fatigue jacket a 1994 Normandy Invasion Commemorative T-Shirt and he carried two olive drab duffel bags when he arrived in Europe April 20, 1995. Each duffelbag was marked with a large triangle and a capital "D", a common US Army Armored Cavalry marking signifying "Delta D".

European police were expecting this suspect to arrive in Frankfurt within days of the Oklahoma City bombing. He did not disappoint them. The author of "Waiting For John Doe (Number Two)" interviewed some of the Interpol investigators involved in the European manhunt for this bombing suspect.

On April 25, 1995 the suspect was known to be a passenger on an express train that was supposed to go from Frankfurt, Germany to Mannheim, Karlsruhe and Baden-Baden and then non-stop to Paris, France. Interpol diverted this train to an empty railway station in Strasbourg, France (this station was normally closed in the early hours each day and thus bypassed, so track repairs could be made). This non-stop express train was diverted, surrounded and stopped while Interpol agents boarded it and removed the suspect described here (Chris Chapula) in full view of hundreds of passengers including a number of Americans who witnessed this event.

"WAITING FOR JOHN DOE (NUMBER TWO) describes the Interpol manhunt for one particular Oklahoma City Bombing suspect in France and Germany. It recounts the story of Interpol investigators, and at least four European and two American witnesses (including the author). The manhunt for the Oklahoma bombing suspect was overseen in France by counter-terrorist detectives from the French Minister of the Interior’s Judicial Police, 6th Division. These are the super-cops of France. Skilled in all combat arts they are experts in the use of special weapons, they speak multiple languages and they have proven their police skills on the streets for years before they train for this elite force. In France the 6th Div. has the power of the American FBI, ATF, Secret Service and DEA rolled into one. They can use or direct any French government department, including every policeman, every laboratory, all the media and even the military during their investigations.

The French 6th Division has one primary directive. They fight terrorism. Whether it’s international terrorists like the Red Brigade, religious terrorism by extremists, or narco-terrorism, the 6th Division has the authority to investigate anyone in France anywhere, and at any time. In France, in late April, 1995, the French 6th Division had the task of finding one particular John Doe #2 suspect, Chris Chapula.

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